# Anyone using mate?

**URL:** https://discourse.nixos.org/t/anyone-using-mate/8034
**Category:** Help
**Created:** [July 8, 2020, 2:55pm UTC](https://discourse.nixos.org/t/anyone-using-mate/8034 "2020-07-08T14:55:13Z")
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### Author: ![jonringer](https://discourse.nixos.org/user_avatar/discourse.nixos.org/jonringer/32/1348_2.png) [@jonringer](https://discourse.nixos.org/u/jonringer)
#### Post date: [July 8, 2020, 4:21pm UTC](https://discourse.nixos.org/t/anyone-using-mate/8034/3 "2020-07-08T16:21:05Z")

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> [@26martin](#):
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> it also seems like there are other mate apps missing which can be started from commandline(caja, system monitor, etc. ).

This is largely by design, so that people don’t get bloat along with the rest of the DE.

It was discussed at length here: [Why I switched to Manjaro Linux - #22 by jonringer](https://discourse.nixos.org/t/why-i-switched-to-manjaro-linux/5903/22)

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