# Are the operating systems of the future immutable?
**URL:** https://discourse.nixos.org/t/are-the-operating-systems-of-the-future-immutable/52100
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**Created:** [September 13, 2024, 4:35pm UTC](https://discourse.nixos.org/t/are-the-operating-systems-of-the-future-immutable/52100 "2024-09-13T16:35:55Z")
**Posts on this page:** 10
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### Author:  [@fricklerhandwerk](https://discourse.nixos.org/u/fricklerhandwerk)
#### Post date: [September 13, 2024, 4:35pm UTC](https://discourse.nixos.org/t/are-the-operating-systems-of-the-future-immutable/52100/1 "2024-09-13T16:35:55Z")
> **[Are the operating systems of the future immutable?](https://thenextweb.com/news/immutable-operating-systems-future)**
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> Developers talk a lot about “immutability.” Outside the technical world, it usually means something negative: unmoving, inflexible, and entrenched. However, in the technical field, these features become an advantage and mean that a system i
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### Author:  [@mightyiam](https://discourse.nixos.org/u/mightyiam)
#### Post date: [September 14, 2024, 2:54am UTC](https://discourse.nixos.org/t/are-the-operating-systems-of-the-future-immutable/52100/2 "2024-09-14T02:54:43Z")
Seems like it’s a 404 now
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### Author:  [@Gaditone](https://discourse.nixos.org/u/Gaditone)
#### Post date: [September 14, 2024, 3:13am UTC](https://discourse.nixos.org/t/are-the-operating-systems-of-the-future-immutable/52100/3 "2024-09-14T03:13:37Z")
It works.
“The Nix community is open-source and donation-funded, with around 800 active monthly contributors. But the modern trend for immutability and how well Nix fits into it hasn’t passed businesses by, even though Gagarin admits he isn’t completely sure of the origins of the rise in interest.”
I thought adoption was enhanced following Calamares?
Other triggers were:
Fedora becoming closed source
Youtubers talking about Nixos (what else!?)
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### Author:  [@mightyiam](https://discourse.nixos.org/u/mightyiam)
#### Post date: [September 14, 2024, 3:35am UTC](https://discourse.nixos.org/t/are-the-operating-systems-of-the-future-immutable/52100/4 "2024-09-14T03:35:05Z")
It’s still a 404 for me.
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### Author:  [@Adda](https://discourse.nixos.org/u/Adda)
#### Post date: [September 14, 2024, 6:50am UTC](https://discourse.nixos.org/t/are-the-operating-systems-of-the-future-immutable/52100/5 "2024-09-14T06:50:25Z")
Try [Wayback Machine snapshot of the page](https://web.archive.org/web/20240914064616/https://thenextweb.com/news/immutable-operating-systems-future). You might have to “go back one page” a few times if the cookies page tries to appear first.
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### Author:  [@rnhmjoj](https://discourse.nixos.org/u/rnhmjoj)
#### Post date: [September 14, 2024, 9:48am UTC](https://discourse.nixos.org/t/are-the-operating-systems-of-the-future-immutable/52100/6 "2024-09-14T09:48:55Z")
The blog is immutable as well, so the article could not be written without write access.
More seriously, the URL is missing a final slash.
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### Author:  [@mightyiam](https://discourse.nixos.org/u/mightyiam)
#### Post date: [September 14, 2024, 10:04am UTC](https://discourse.nixos.org/t/are-the-operating-systems-of-the-future-immutable/52100/7 "2024-09-14T10:04:53Z")
Seems to work for me now.
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### Author:  [@claes](https://discourse.nixos.org/u/claes)
#### Post date: [September 14, 2024, 10:30pm UTC](https://discourse.nixos.org/t/are-the-operating-systems-of-the-future-immutable/52100/8 "2024-09-14T22:30:26Z")
The “new” distributions that offer immutability, like Silverblue, seem very tedious to use for general purpose computing, as workstation etc. I can understand the case for production servers. Would be interesting to hear about experiences and comparison with NixOS.
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### Author:  [@ElvishJerricco](https://discourse.nixos.org/u/ElvishJerricco)
#### Post date: [September 14, 2024, 10:39pm UTC](https://discourse.nixos.org/t/are-the-operating-systems-of-the-future-immutable/52100/9 "2024-09-14T22:39:15Z")
I think that’s a teething issue. Portable services, sysexts, and confexts are all not very common right now and should make system level changes on immutable OSes as simple as installing a package with your package manager.
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### Author:  [@llakala](https://discourse.nixos.org/u/llakala)
#### Post date: [September 14, 2024, 11:59pm UTC](https://discourse.nixos.org/t/are-the-operating-systems-of-the-future-immutable/52100/10 "2024-09-14T23:59:53Z")
I tried out Bazzite (fork of Fedora Silverblue) prior to learning about NixOS, and immediately ran into an issue with my wifi driver not being packaged. I had to use USB tethering to get around it, and ended up just using Fedora since it worked so much better.
I also remember pulling an all-nighter trying to install Mangohud on SteamOS (that one is partially my fault since you can do it within Steam, but it was still hell).
Honestly, I feel like immutable distros end up with all the cons of NixOS and none of the pros.