If GitHub dies, we have (at least we should have, I know this has been
discussed at length but don’t know if the ones with the appropriate
rights actually did it) backups of the whole data it has. We write a
script that converts it to whatever new software, import it, done.
Did you try to figure it out, for instance with a little toy POC to
migrate from GitHub, PR, wiki, pipelines, … to another hoster with
a different offer? Passing the sources is certainly easy, export PRs
and wiki might be less easy, change pipelines might be manual…
If we wanted to migrate out of GitHub now, we would have to do it
anyway, so… I personally don’t feel any threat of GitHub closing on us
anytime soon, meaning I don’t feel any emergency in doing this tool.
Also, I’m pretty sure eg. GitLab would be more than happy to provide
such a tool should GitHub start to close down OSS communities, as it’d
be a major selling point for them
If we wanted to migrate out of GitHub now, we would have to do it
anyway, so… I personally don’t feel any threat of GitHub closing on us
anytime soon, meaning I don’t feel any emergency in doing this tool.
No reason to be pressed, I agree that it’s an unlikely event. But that
does not means ignore it, instead take advantage of having time to
craft something better is IMO a very good thing…
An ancient military motto’s in my country state: if is super-urgent,
a matter of life and death, better do nothing; they are already dead.
If is an urgent matter, next week might be a reasonable schedule. If
is a bit important, subsequent days might be ok to take care of. If
is a marginal thing, do it immediately!
A way to say that doing thing on hurry is doing bad things, the more
hurry the worst they’ll be. With calm on contrary is possible to do
good and useful things.
He’s a Microsoft shill which is why he spends 2 hours helping nixos users daily. And you on the other hand can barely format your code, or choose not to, since you have no respect for your readers.
While Microsoft does have sources and schemes to take over Linux eventually , I assure you @jonringer is not a part of them. They have caught a much bigger fish, Leonard pottering. Systemd is hosted on GitHub. And my friend inside MS tells me they’ve been slowly adding windows Installer code to systemd. You would think that tests et al would catch them but alas systemd uses azure pipelines. A few years down the line, you’ll boot into Nixos, all excited and lo, the init process would launch a windows Installer and disgusted you will throw your computer out of the window.
Btw, this comment was really bad personal attack and I flagged it, not sure who reenabled it but I think it’s best for the community if personal attacks are avoided.
Out of polemics (personally I do not consider Microsoft a
specific “enemy”, only a corporation that do it’s job in
making money crushing others) the REAL big threat to GNU/Linux
and FOSS in general is another: WSL.
With WSL and marketing and OEMs help in few years installing
GNU/Linux for most users will mean downloading a package from
the Windows store. And that’s not a joke.
GitHub can simply be a trap in the sense that might impact on
development community before eradicating other source hosting
platform and after making bad choices for FOSS devs, but is a
far marginal threat than WSL.
All distro IMO should do their best to avoid compatibility with
it like “this patch is for fixing a WSL bug…”, “we do not care
about it sorry”.
I was the one who restored the post, and I do not feel like @tohl2’s post is a personal attack. I agree with you that personal attacks should be avoided.
I am blocking this thread as it is going nowhere and is now devolving into personal attacks.
We can have this conversation in a new thread if it’s grounded on facts and proposals, trying to build a better NixOS. But here it’s mainly opinions and fear which is not productive and tends to devolve as we have seen.
Thanks for your understanding and hope to see you in the other threads!
