# Nix Survival Mode: macOS upgrades won't break Nix anymore when you install Nix using the Determinate Nix Installer

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**Created:** [October 25, 2023, 5:06pm UTC](https://discourse.nixos.org/t/nix-survival-mode-macos-upgrades-wont-break-nix-anymore-when-you-install-nix-using-the-determinate-nix-installer/34593 "2023-10-25T17:06:43Z")
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### Author: ![fricklerhandwerk](https://discourse.nixos.org/user_avatar/discourse.nixos.org/fricklerhandwerk/32/2029_2.png) [@fricklerhandwerk](https://discourse.nixos.org/u/fricklerhandwerk)
#### Post date: [October 26, 2023, 9:08am UTC](https://discourse.nixos.org/t/nix-survival-mode-macos-upgrades-wont-break-nix-anymore-when-you-install-nix-using-the-determinate-nix-installer/34593/11 "2023-10-26T09:08:11Z")

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> [@grahamc](#):
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> I don’t feel like we received clear consensus, but I’d be very glad to be wrong.

I meant consensus on having projects at roughly that level of support and general acceptance in nix-community. It seems there was no objection to the proposed criteria so far, and we made quite an effort to ask everyone who may care and have an influence on the outcome. That’s as much of a clear consensus as we usually get around here.

> [@grahamc](#):
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> Why should it move to `nix-community`? Why would it / what’s the advantage for it to move?

To signal its support status. The forked installer is not the official one, so it should not be an official project under the NixOS GitHub org. It seems that currently only @abathur is maintaining it, so it _is_ actively maintained, which qualifies for nix-community. Placing it on the same level as say Nix and Nixpkgs would only add to the type of mixed signals and associated uncertainty the ecosystem has been suffering for a number of years, such as with flakes and the user wiki. That situation is really not great for fostering broader adoption.

> [@grahamc](#):
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> My impression is that organization is effectively unrelated to the NixOS Foundation and Nix project beyond being a great place for community projects

I’m puzzled by this statement. Yes, it’s in a sense unrelated to the NixOS Foundation, so what? Almost everything is. All the foundation is supposed to do is keep the lights on and take care that the brand is not abused. On the other hand, @zimbatm is one of the owners for both [nix-community GitHub org](https://github.com/orgs/nix-community/people?query=role%3Aowner) and [NixOS GitHub org](https://github.com/orgs/nixos/people?query=role%3Aowner), and lots of nix-community maintainers are also highly active contributors to projects in the NixOS GitHub org. So they are objectively quite related. What exactly that means and what the “Nix project” is supposed to be, is still to be defined, to the best of my knowledge. That’s indeed one of the motivating questions of the governance discussions. I suggest we [continue in that thread](https://discourse.nixos.org/t/nixcon-governance-workshop/32705/18).

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