What is aplay supposed to show on the Pi4?

I just can’t get audio on my Pi4. I’ve been at this for weeks now.

Trying to troubleshoot, so can anybody who got audio working tell me what aplay -L is supposed to show?

I see this:

[root@pi:~]# aplay -L
null
    Discard all samples (playback) or generate zero samples (capture)
default
    Default Audio Device (via PulseAudio)
sysdefault:CARD=Headphones
    bcm2835 Headphones, bcm2835 Headphones
    Default Audio Device

ok, it’s supposed to show this:

[root@pi:~]# aplay -L
null
    Discard all samples (playback) or generate zero samples (capture)
default
    Default Audio Device (via PulseAudio)
sysdefault:CARD=b1
    bcm2835 HDMI 1, bcm2835 HDMI 1
    Default Audio Device
sysdefault:CARD=Headphones
    bcm2835 Headphones, bcm2835 Headphones
    Default Audio Device

It’s working now with Plex and outputs audio on HDMI